[NotAStan Joined: Sep 22nd, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 100 View Predictions]

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Final Predictions

Pop Solo – Don’t Start Now by Dua Lipa
Pop Vocal – Future Nostalgia by Dua Lipa
Pop Duo/Group – Exile by Taylor Swift feat. Bon Iver

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[NotAStan Joined: Sep 22nd, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 100 View Predictions]

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Future Nostalgia will win AOTY. And I hope Taylor wins SOTY for Cardigan, she deserves that award the most and is long overdue.

[NotAStan Joined: Sep 22nd, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 100 View Predictions]

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jen1238 wrote:

folklore, please. Anything BUT Future Nostalgia. The Brits will vote for Dua, she’s their Great White Hope… Not one but 3 UK critics gave FN a perfect 10, which is why its Metascore was so much higher than Billie’s WWAFAWDWG. So unfair. According to a Rolling Stone article (Oct 5, 2020) on payola, “Zap instructed a station he worked with to take plays from artists such as Panic! at the Disco and Maren Morris in an effort to boost Marshmello, Halsey, and Dua Lipa.” No wonder her songs do so well on radio!

So basically you hate Dua Lipa because she’s seeing success and using the same tatics everybody else also uses (payola, remixes)? Or is it because you hate Brits because they support her artistry and think she made a perfect album? I’m sorry to tell you she’s sitting in the top 5 of the YE aggregate which pretty much invalidates you point.

I don’t really understand your post. You can say you hate her without finding lame excuses to discredit her success, too, y’know?

OT: I’m starting to think that FN might still have a chance at AOTY. Dua is making herself visible out there. She’s been on American TV at least twice each week, for the past 3 weeks.

[NotAStan Joined: Sep 22nd, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 100 View Predictions]

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Honestly, I’d much rather have Exile win this category as it should, but Rain On Me has been showered with acclaim and will make a worthy winner, too.

It is Gaga and Ariana’s to lose. Taylor has a very slim chance.

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[NotAStan Joined: Sep 22nd, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 100 View Predictions]

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I actually am not mad, I respect her a lot because it shows she cares but she is making it about the music… When I drifted apart from her (reputation) I did because there was always some controversy or drama around her and I felt like she needed that to have things to write about and stay relevant. But I see the only thing she has is LOTS of talent and can make it about the art.

I’m fine with her taking the award if voters decide to give it to her. She deserves it big time.

[NotAStan Joined: Sep 22nd, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 100 View Predictions]

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I’ll give her that she’s very smart. I’m sure the material is really good, as always.

She won AOTY already, I am no longer invested in the race because it’s too clear now. There is nothing Dua could do to overcome this one.

[NotAStan Joined: Sep 22nd, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 100 View Predictions]

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They might as well hand her the award now. She has got it in the bag any way.

[NotAStan Joined: Sep 22nd, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 100 View Predictions]

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Yeah, I understand that. I don’t think that a win for FN will be related to sales. If she wins it’s because they really liked that record, just like critics and people around the world did.

Dua Lipa does no have a massive fanbase, she didn’t have tour bundles, she hasn’t discounted her album in the US and she has not released signed copies to boost her sales. Hell, she didn’t even discount Don’t Start Now when it was close to peaking at number one. It’s understandable that a dance-pop, second album by a British artist didn’t sell as well as the others.

Post Malone is massive, he has urban appeal and the biggest song of the year next Blinding Lights. Taylor is on her 8th album and has the biggest fanbase in the entire world, who will buy anything she releases and did a lot of signed copies. Jhene is R&B and has a lot of appeal with the U.S. audience in general that is more urban-leaning.

Dua Lipa is belittled in comparison to the contexts mentioned above, and that’s why she needs to work harder. Dance-pop music also has the stigma of being surface-level, nonsensical, salad of words tied together by themes.

She sent a vinyl with Future Nostalgia and Don’t Start Now on it, but Gaga had the cover and made sure the VMAs were Gaga-centric, Dua didn’t even attend, nor did she attend the BBMAs or EMAs. Dua sent her box with the album, but Taylor sent cardigans and the album to voters, too. Dua Lipa invited the PRESS to Studio2054 so that they could review the show, not Grammy voters.

So far, the only thing that she has done in the States is the AMAS, CBS interview thing and the Tiny Desk Concert. She has more promo lined up, but up till now, she was focused on Europe.

Edit: Upon reading back your comments, I noticed I have some of the users in the convo muted and misinterpreted the context. I’m sorry for calling you salty and getting riled up 😉

[NotAStan Joined: Sep 22nd, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 100 View Predictions]

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gold rush wrote:

The poster was comparing Dua Lipa’s worldwide impact with Future Nostalgia to Bruno Mars’ 24kMagic. The point I was trying to make was that sometimes the academy’s decisions don’t coincide with whatever the whole world is listening to.

They were not, they were saying that people who have lots of co-writers have swept before.

I see Dua has done enough to push the swifties buttons here for them to start feeling threatened and SNL hasn’t even happened yet, lol.

Nobody was saying this when Taylor was campaigning the hell out of 1989… Plus, Dua has all the right in the world to promote her music. The fact that Taylor can’t bother promoting hers this Grammys cycle does not mean someone relatively new and who’s foreign should not campaign.

This user bringing up promotion as a negative thing sounds so salty. That’s her JOB, that’s what pop stars do: promote and release music, so go get a grip and cry elsewhere.

Now, I hope Dua takes all the awards just to spite all of you salty swifties.

[NotAStan Joined: Sep 22nd, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 100 View Predictions]

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Placing Chromatica above folklore is the real crime on that list. A nightmare.

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Miss Americana wrote:

Not Vice putting Folklore #97 and FN #31. FN was a great album, but some publications are overdoing it.

Maybe it so happens that they liked FN more than folklore? I mean that’s also valid in a world where people are allowed to like different things or have different preferences.

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[NotAStan Joined: Sep 22nd, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 100 View Predictions]

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Anyways, Future Nostalgia’s songs appearing on YE lists:

Don’t Start Now

Cool

Physical

Levitating

Hallucinate

Break My Heart

Boys Will Be Boys

7 out of 11 songs is great for a surface-level album with no depth that is a salad of words just thrown in to make it catchy.

 

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[NotAStan Joined: Sep 22nd, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 100 View Predictions]

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I’m starting to lean more towards Rain On Me as the winner in this category. It’s showing up on every YE list, I’m kind of shocked.

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ciguanaba wrote:

you need to accept that FN is a pop album with pop sensibilities and it’s not smart at all. it’s very surface-level and the lyrics are catchy but mediocre. I’m not saying it won’t win, actually I started the conversation because of the opposite reason. I’m just saying that the high-quality production probably will appeal to elder members and young-ish members as well, because most of the instrumentation/production in that album literally SLAPS. I would rather another album win but my choice isn’t even nominated so I’m not that pressed. Just saying that it will be very very sad if an album with such little depth wins again.

Ok, so I called bias too quickly. I see what you mean, but songwriting does not stop at lyrics, you also have melodies and the ones on Future Nostalgia are amazing. So maybe there aren’t intricate lyrics, but you have effective lyrics paired with amazing melodies that do the work very efficiently.

I understand you’re more drawn to music that tells you a story from the lyrics (FTBC and folklore) and that’s respectable, but FN is just as worthy.

[NotAStan Joined: Sep 22nd, 2020 Topics: 0 Posts: 100 View Predictions]

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ciguanaba wrote:

Every lyric on every track on that album is nonsense and/or cliches.

lol, you sound biased AF.