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July 28, 2021 at 5:20 am #1204367365
Fantastic Four for Miles Teller.
Turning down Batman and Superman for Josh Hartnett.
Logan Lerman after Fury.
Sleepers and Speed 2 for Jason Patric.
Journey to Center of the Moon and Furry Vengeance for Brendan Fraser. He’s cumming back tho.
Zoom and Wild Hogs for Tim Allen.
Acting in only 4-5 movies total in 80s slowed down Redford’s acting career.
Welcome to Marwen for Steve Carrell or maybe its too early to tell.
Sleuth killed Jude Law’s leading man career.
Town and Country killed Warren Beatty’s career.
Josh Hutcherson after Hunger Games 4.
Eric Bana after Munich.
The Walk and Snowden killed Joseph Gordon Levitt’s career.July 27, 2021 at 5:53 am #1204365463
I don’t understand why Spielberg keeps making these boring movies. Like the craft in them are obviously top notch but the stories are so inconsequential and dull. Dude could make whatever movie he wants and he decides to make The Post? Then that War Horse movie and Bridge of Spies mentioned here. Even The BFG was most boring blockbuster of the last 10 years. Only worthwhile thing he’s done since The Terminal is Tintin and Ready Player One. Atleast West Side Story looks exciting even though its a remake.July 27, 2021 at 5:48 am #1204365461
Oscar #2 loading for Joaquin. And then the Napoleon movie’s gonna be huge hit too.July 27, 2021 at 5:46 am #1204365457
One in supporting role in TV and another only with critical success. The A-list career of both of them are gone. Banderas went from starring as Zorro to villains in flop movies (Dolittle, Haywire). I don’t know even know the names of any movie Christian Slater did in the last 25 years.
Y’all on the Nic Cage slander … woah, woah, woah. Mandy was incredible. He was great in Color Out of Space, a surprisingly wonderful sci fi. Pig is one of his best performances. He’s still serving.
Again nobody actually watched these movies. And the number of bad B movies he’s done is way more than the few good ones. And he’s really really bad in most of them too. Tiger King series could’ve been a big hit but oh well. Atleast Nic Cage dropped off in his 50s, those two killed their career in their 30s.July 25, 2021 at 4:40 pm #1204362622
Jonah Hill: Dude went AWOL after 2014 basically which is so weird cause he was in a winning streak. The Penguin role in The Batman could’ve been the role for his comeback.
John Cusack: Around the same as Nic Cage. I think Love and Mercy was the last notable thing he’s done.
Javier Bardem: After Skyfall (2012). Another actor who worked too little and wasted his prime.
Mathew Broderick: The double flops of Godzilla and Inspector Gadget killed his career.
Rob Lowe, Emilio Estevez, Charlie Sheen, Molly Ringwald etc. Basically most of the young 80s actors vanished in the 90s.
Mel Gibson: I guess this one is voluntary, he quitted acting for a long time after Signs which was even a blockbuster hit.
Arnold: Starting with Batman and Robin.
Harrison Ford: After 2000. Though like Arnold he was kinda old already.
Val Kilmer: After The Saint? Dude went from starring as Batman to playing Alexander’s dad a few years later.
Christian Slater: Broken Arrow
Antonio Banderas: Another double flops guy with The 13th Warrior and Ecks: Savers vs someone(lol)July 25, 2021 at 4:11 pm #1204362591
I’ll start with what I think are the perfect examples: 1. George Clooney after The Descendants (2011), he was 50 years old. His last good movie as a relevant leading man. (I don’t even count Gravity which is a full Sandra Bullock movie, he has only a brief unmemorable appearance). 2. Johnny Depp after Alice in Wonderland (2010) [47 years old] His last true big hit (i don’t count Black Mass which performed mediocrely on a commercial and a critical level). 3. Sean Penn after Milk (2008) [48 years old]. No further explanations needed. 4. Russell Crowe after Cinderella Man (2005) [41 years old]. The first of Crowe’s mediocre flops during that decade which exposed his acting limitations and weaknesses. 5. Nicolas Cage around 2007-2009 [43-45 years old]. I can’t precisely pinpoint a single movie (Lord of War? The Wicker Man? Ghost Rider?), but it’s when he started accumulating debts and had to do lots of C-level straight to VOD movies. Despite decent critical acclaim on some recent quirky indie movies, he never recovered his A-list star status. 6. Will Smith after After Earth (2013) [45 years old] He took a break of four years after Hancock and the flop Seven Pounds (2008). He then came back in 2012 with MIB 3 (good commercial success) but he turned down Django Unchained (big mistake) and did After Earth (2013) which started his decline in terms of movie star status and relevance. Sometimes he has a success once in a while (Suicide Squad, Aladdin, Bad Boys For Life) but it’s simply not the same like it used to be, he’s not the same big movie star anymore. 7. Morgan Freeman after Invictus (2009) [72 years old].
I agree with all your examples except Will Smith, he’s still got it. I mean as you said he got 3 big hits in recent years (Suicide Squad, Aladdin, Bad Boys 3), that’s good enough to hold onto his star status. And he got King Richard incoming.
And I’d say Depp’s falloff was after Darks Shadow in 2012 and Russel Crowe’s was after 2007. Cage was somewhere around 2013 when he started doing all them B movies. Ghost Rider 2, Season of the Witch were bad but atleast they had some budget.July 23, 2021 at 3:33 pm #1204359813
There’s going to be 3-4 movies which have bigger box office than Dune in just October, No Time to Die, Hotel Transylvania 4, The Last Duel and Halloween Kills. This ain’t no LOTR people, all 3 of those movies were the biggest movies their respective years. And if LOTR got best pic only at the 3rd time, Dune got zero chance.July 21, 2021 at 2:38 am #1204355654
This is like the best trailer of the year. People here are weird here af, living in their pseudo film grad bubbles
And as I said earlier this movie’s gonna have a Gladiator like reputation. There’s a serious dearth of medieval movies and the two most recent ones The King and the Outlaw king were very average.July 7, 2021 at 6:34 am #1204332399
I think people are underestimating The Last Duel a lot. I think it could be a Gladiator 2.0. Specially the titular duel’s gonna be fire and Driver channeling a Commodus like villain.June 25, 2021 at 11:55 pm #1204318901
On a lighter note, I’m glad that audiences are coming around to Luca. I think the underwhelming initial reactions were due to people expecting a film with a scope more typical of Pixar. I personally loved how, well, personal it was. While I think it’s a lock for a nomination, I’m not sure of a win. It’s got internal competition from Disney, and while we can point to Brave beating Wreck-It Ralph, the competition is much stronger this year. It also has a slightly lower average RT score than Mitchells.
Luca’s 2nd half is pretty mediocre and there’s a bunch of plot holes too. Soul is like on another level compared to Luca, so it ain’t winning animated feature. Raya has a better chance.June 23, 2021 at 4:46 am #1204314134
I think Dear Evan Hansen does have potential to do somewhat better due to the source material being more established to general audiences than In the Heights. Plus, DEH has a few more recognizable faces in its cast.
No its not more recognizable lol. Other than Hamilton general audiences don’t even know the names of broadway plays.
But they do have Amy Adams so there’s some star power to it.June 20, 2021 at 10:56 am #1204309997
Lol if La La Land was a success wasn’t because of Ryan Gosling. His most recent movies as lead (First Man, BR 2049, The Nice Guys…) all flopped at the BO despite good reviews. A star would have helped, but my guess is that the marketing for this wasn’t good enough and failed to generate interest in audiences… which is a shame tbh
They literally spammed everyone with ads of this movie. There was like 3-4 trailer 9-10 and tv clips constantly played for months before this came out. People just weren’t interested.
Okay even if Gosling’s next movies flopped that movie still had Emma Stone who just had another hit with Cruella. I mean Ryan Gosling & Emma Stone vs Anthony Ramos & Melissa Barrera? lol.June 20, 2021 at 10:27 am #1204309959
Umm… According to Sthe first sources, the streaming numbers weren’t good either (Less of 1M last week). And that didn’t stop for films like Godzilla vs. Kong, Mortal Kombat to gain money on BO. Please, Cruella, with the extra price per Disney+ is having a nice recaudation after all!. Even the trades right now acknowledge HBOMax wasn’t the impediment for ITH floppage, but yeah, keep that delusion alive (alongside with the great word of mouth from last weekend to this that sink the film from 2nd to 6th place at BO, lmao). Anyway, I don’t think Ramos will be recast. Transformers is a brand and will gain money (Honests, this year’s two Best leading Oscar winners starred in Transformers XD). Also, it helps Ramos for visibility and name recognition after starring this flop.
I think the WB head even said that the movies that are box office hits also have high viewership numbers in hbo max and those that flop also die in hbo max.
I’m also laughing at how ITH fans said this is gonna be a word of mouth slow hit like The Greatest showman and it dropped to 6th from 2nd in the 2nd weekend lol.
And ultimately it comes down to the film having no stars. If this starred someone like Hugh Jackman or Ryan Gosling(La La Land) this definitely wouldn’t flop like this. Nobody gives a shit about Anthony Ramos and the other unknowns in the cast.June 19, 2021 at 3:06 pm #1204309215
Paramount is probably trying to quickly recast Anthony Ramos in the next Transformers movie after the spectacular way this movie flopped lol.