Robinladen
Members Since
Sep 09, 2017
Last Login
Jan 05, 2022
Game Points
10431
Quiz Points
0
Total Points
10431
Forum Replies Created
-
-
November 29, 2021 at 10:51 am #1204612844
Campaigning is seen more as a film award thing, but is it a bit more important for the Grammies now too?
2020: Billie definetely had a sudden peak again in doing press during Q4 of 2019 while WWAFAWDWG was out for ages
2021: Taylor dropped the Disney+ special and Evermore perfectly aligned with the voting rounds
Since this year Gaga, Billie and Olivia are all Interscope, do we think they as a record label could potentially favor someone? I do feel like Gaga was quite MIA in Q4 of 2019 for the A Star Is Born soundtrack when Billie was doing her campaign.
ReplyNovember 29, 2021 at 10:08 am #1204612697Because nobody is actually “uncomfortable” with anything. No one is genuinely concerned about anyone being “exploited”; people just want a reason to be mad at Gaga. It’s transparent af.
You really hit the jackpot here.
ReplyNovember 29, 2021 at 10:02 am #1204612670Monsters, just celebrate your fave potentially winning her FIRST GF award. I know you guys must’ve waited a long time…
She has more than 10 Grammies, 2 Globes and an Oscar. We weren’t waiting for this. Plus many amazing artists don’t have general field wins, some even no Grammies at all.
ReplyNovember 29, 2021 at 9:40 am #1204612598You literally just contradicted yourself sis. There’s nothing even remotely dramatic about what I’m saying. In fact, it’s increasingly transparent and obvious. Just take your stan glass off for a moment. This whole campaign is being orchestrated to win Grammys for Gaga on account of Tony Bennett’s legendary career. Did she do it? Did her team do it? Is Tony’s family doing it? Does it even matter? I’m just telling y’all who’s it benefitting and it’s not Tony Bennett who’s literally dying. You’re 100% delusional if you can’t acknowledge how they’re piggybacking on this narrative to secure wins. Accepting this doesn’t negate the relationship Gaga and Tony had or whatever sentimentality is attached to it. Two things can – and do exist at once.
I said they probably always wanted to compete in 2022, even if Adele dropped her album and they had to compete against her. So no, I didn’t contradict myself. They would have still have a shot at the other categories.
This honestly feels like people saying “Gaga is exploiting the gays” in 2011. It’s just pure hater talk. What did you want her to do? Release the album in april and then never promote it or talk about it. Let Tony leave a 70 year old career through the backdoor. What you’re holding against her, just doesn’t make sense. She’s just doing what she’s supposed to do. Yes, she probably likes winning awards. Who wouldn’t? But it’s not like she befriended Tony Bennett 10 years ago because she knew it would lead her to an AOTY win. And at the moment she’s just doing her job. If you’re mad at her for doing that, okay, you can be. But you’re not on the moral or objective side. You’re clearly very in your feelings about this.
ReplyNovember 29, 2021 at 9:32 am #1204612545Even if Tony maybe doesn’t completely understand what’s going on, stars do leave a legacy behind. And the way he came alive during that final performance with Gaga, he seemed super happy. Maybe his family just also wants to get a glimpse of the old Tony again at the Grammy’s. I do think he’ll understand in the moment he’s being celebrated if he wins an award on TV.
It’s not exploitive if everyone involved benefits from it.
ReplyNovember 29, 2021 at 9:25 am #1204612517Because it just looks all the more transparent and greedy. They waited the entire month to see if Adele/Beyoncé were releasing and then rushed the cassette release to secure the nominations. The moment they did it, all these stan claims about it being “for the art” went out the window. It’s just what it is. Maybe people wouldn’t have cared if they didn’t move their date but they did. And yes, it does feel exploitative. I really don’t think Tony Bennett is in a condition to care about the Grammys – heck he doesn’t even remember them. This is 100% being done for Gaga. You can try to spin it as her label doing it or whatever but this unequivocally benefits her and I know damn well most of this campaign is her team’s doing.
Girl, you’re being SUPER dramatic. You make an album for the art, then you hand it over to your label and it gets marketed. Unless you’re on some unknown indie label, that’s how it goes. I’m also pretty sure the casettes were already planned and they weren’t waiting for Adele or Beyoncé. I don’t think they were necessaryly aiming for AOTY. Because if this had to compete in 2023, it’d have too little buzz left to win AOTY probably anyway.
ReplyNovember 28, 2021 at 3:10 pm #1204611107I think they also went for DL because Good For You had the – quite lame – Paramore controversy.
ReplyNovember 28, 2021 at 12:49 am #1204610144It’s a great year to reward AOTY to a veteran again as none of the nominees this year are clear frontrunners. Olivia feels like the new teen pop princess that comes along every generation and should still prove herself a bit more before taking such a big award home. Billie has a more unique style and story of her brother being the producer but she hasn’t really developed so much from her debut that she already needs to win again. People talk about covers but Doja Cat and Bieber, to me, brought nothing new to the table either. Feels like typical commercial music of the now that’s well made but doesn’t really inspire or excel. I personally think MONTERO would be quite an inspiring winner based on his story and background, but he’s probably a bit too memed to take home the really big category and he already underperformed in nominations. Taylor Swift, I think absolutely no one besides die hard stans want to see her win a fourth time for an album that wasn’t really a moment. For Kanye West, personally I’d find a bit funny for someone to win AOTY after pissing on a Grammy, but idk, it doesn’t really feel like his moment atm. For H.E.R. and Jon Batiste I can’t say much as I’m not too familar with their albums and only listened to a few songs, but maybe a bit too lowkey to win it rn, altho I do feel like it’s really the year for an underdog to take it.
ReplyNovember 28, 2021 at 12:19 am #1204610110As a Gaga fan, I don’t want LFS to win GF and wish the winner list can go like this: AoTY: Jon Batiste/”We Are” RoTY: “Leave The Door Open” SoTY: “Happier Than Ever” Best Pop Duo: “Kiss Me More” It sounds strange but I hope they only win Traditional Pop Album. Pop Duo maybe but “Kiss Me More” is my top 3 favorite 2021 song so… Oh, academy, why are you doing this to us? We do want Gaga to win AoTY but apparently not for this project…
Please don’t talk in “we” like the entirety of Gaga fans don’t want her to win AOTY for learning to sing a new musical genre with the help from a unique friendship and musical pairing crossing generations and doing a sequel to the album that legit kept her in the music industry after she was spitten out by the media. You don’t want Gaga to win, just keep it at that.
ReplyNovember 27, 2021 at 2:54 am #1204608903VOTY Winner: Tony Bennett & Lady Gaga – I Get A Kick Out Of You
ReplyNovember 25, 2021 at 2:26 pm #1204606600The way even with 2 additional nominees the voters said NO to Butter in ROTY
They’re honestly very lucky for two years in a row now we only have two competitive nominees in pop duo/group and they need three fillers. If Tony/Gaga win I do am excited for ‘listen here you sick twisted white demon, when I catch you miss Lady Gaga, I swear to god I will drag you and I will beat your ass’ the remix.
ReplyNovember 25, 2021 at 2:20 pm #1204606587Ariana is obviously floating dead on the water. The material is old by now, she abonded the era quickly, it was a commercial decline from TUN and she’s not very present at the moment during voting. She’ll probably finish last in both her categories.
ReplyNovember 25, 2021 at 10:31 am #1204606252SOUR, Driver’s License, I Get A Kick Out of You and Love For Sale are winning imo.
ReplyNovember 25, 2021 at 10:21 am #1204606244Gaga’s team named her special with Tony Bennett as “One Last Time” (just transparent and nasty) and released cassettes on the last day of the eligibility period to fraud their way into AOTY in a weak year. I don’t normally engage in these stans wars but trust, you don’t wanna go down this road because it’s gonna be super ugly for you guys when we start calling out her promo for what it is.
Some people have been going on farewell tours for decades. This is genuinely his last album. I’m sure Tony’s own son and manager had a big impact in the roll out of this album and how things are named. Tony and Gaga know eachother personally for a decade now.
ReplyNovember 25, 2021 at 7:21 am #1204605900Lol. Taylor has been the one of the most streamed acts these past few years and just won her third Grammy for AOTY. She’s still hugely relevant from a music standpoint. And now, being “fan-driven” is a bad thing. Okay… If you think Gaga is more musically relevant than either Adele or Taylor going into 2022, then I need y’all to get out of that house. She’s not.
Well often music gets forgotten over time. I think a lot of Gen Z would struggle to name an Elvis Presley song. It’s his image that lasted. And Lady Gaga definetely made a splash on pop culture. While Taylor has definetely been entertaining in her feuds with Joe Jonas, Kanye West, Kim Kardashian, Katy Perry, Calvin Harris, Nicki Minaj, start-up with no cashflow Spotify, Scooter Braun, Justin Bieber, … I wouldn’t say that she definetely has a legacy that’s going to survive decades.
Anyway I didn’t read all your previous comments and just jumped in randomly and now I see you’re being very stan warred so I matched your vibe but I wasn’t that serious. So I’ll end it here.
ReplyWhy are you reporting this post? (optional):Not now
