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April 23, 2019 at 12:03 am #1202862916
Yeah she was- the last half of the performance was more dramatic but she was more subtle in the beginning and in the middle.April 22, 2019 at 3:26 pm #1202862453
The Favourite still could have prevailed in Best Picture as it had a conceivable path with a BAFTA win for Best Picture and the fact that it wasn’t impossible for it to win at PGA(although I doubt it even came close as Roma and Black Klansman probably did better there). Without WGA though it really needed a precursor win on this side of the pond to get a firm hold on the screenplay category as the last and only time a Best Original Screenplay winner has won with the BAFTA only was in 2002 for Talk To Her and that category was much weaker in terms of competition. If The Favourite had won the Globe or was eligible for WGA and won it would have helped its chances enormously although it could have gotten Birdmaned since Best Picture winners have a hard time losing in the Screenplay categories.
But I now am seeing the fact that the Globes really do shape a lot of the season especially this year with all the major winners there repeating at the Oscars.April 22, 2019 at 3:15 pm #1202862438
1990: Angelica Huston as Grifters had more support then Woodward’s film and she was terrific in it.
1991: Sarandon- but Davis absolutely costed her the chance at a win. They really both should have tied.
1992: Sarandon again but Thompson was a huge lock having won everything and being in a Best Picture nominee with four contenders from lackluster Oscar contenders.
1993: Angela Basset but I doubt she was that close to winning as Hunter was an incredibly strong favorite that year.
1994: Foster as she had a very juicy part and won SAG.
1995: Tough to say but Shue may have ended up in second place due to the merits of her work and Cage being the Best Actor frontrunner.
1996: Brenda Blethyn- If McDormand hadn’t been so beloved she would have prevailed due to wealth spreading.
1997: Judi Dench.
1998: Cate Blanchett.
1999: Annette Bening
2000: I would like to say that Linney was second but Julia was a watershed winner no doubt about it. Allen’s film had no buzz and neither did Burstyn’s.
2001: Nicole Kidman as I think Spacek’s chances had dimmed too much by Oscar time.
2003: Keaton but Theron was unbeatable.
2004: Staunton as Bening’s film was such a flop.
2005: Huffman who if the film had come out 6 or 7 years later may have won.
2006: Meryl Streep although I bet she and Dench were about even.
2007: Julie Christie although it’s possible the hype about her cost her a lot of votes and Linney or Page could have snuck into second. I used to think Linney came in second myself.
2008: Meryl- I doubt it was that close as SAG wanted to honor Meryl for a film performance and everybody supported the fact that it was Winslet’s year. Hathaway and Leo most likely cut into votes that Meryl needed to make the race closer.
2009: It really easily could have been Meryl again and it probably was but oh how I wish Carey Mulligan’s BAFTA win means she came in second.
2010: Annette Bening but I doubt it was that close.
2011: Davis- Streep had the broader industry support that year after two high profile losses in the years before.
2012: Riva as I don’t think that Zero Dark Thirty had the momentum to carry Chastain over to a win and the performance is a bit too subtle IMO.
2013: Adams-Gravity had a better chance at winning BP obviously but Bullock had just been honored. Might be biased though lol 🙂
2014: This is tough as Moore probably had an incredibly strong majority but based on passion alone Cotillard may have been able to get into second. I doubt Witherspoon got a lot of votes and Pike was in a film the Academy hated.
2015: Ronan as I don’t think that 45 Years was widely seen enough and Rampling shot herself in the foot by speaking out against Oscarssowhite although she really had no chance anyway.
2016: Huppert- She may have won if she had gotten enough precursor attention to ensure that her film was seen enough.
2017: Hawkins although with everyone besides Streep being a conceivable winner in any other year who knows?
2018: Glenn Close.April 22, 2019 at 7:57 am #1202861874
I never bought the hype for Portman in Jackie. She had just won for Black Swan and plus there was the controversy that she exaggerated how much dancing she had done and the real ballerina exposed that. Plus Jackie was a dour film and the role has been played so often.
I think Viola would have won in Best Actress easily. It was apparently her choice to go for supporting. I met the studio PR woman at a Gold Derby event and she said they are waiting for her to see the finished film and then she’ll decide where she wants to be placed. I think Viola got burned once before when she went lead for what could have been a supporting role so this time she just went the safer route. Too bad. I think she would have beat Stone since as we saw with Best Picture the La La Land under-performed.
Her first win was six years before that and I doubt many people cared by that point about the dancing controversy which wasn’t entirely her fault as it was the studio that told the double to hush up about it and the double(professional ballerina Sarah Lane) advocated on her merits as an actress in the interview(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbeDf1ioW8Y) and called out the studio more then anything else. I feel like Jackie made no real impact with Oscar voters and it’s possible the politics that were going on at the time it was released played a part in audiences not wanting to relive a painful moment in American history.April 21, 2019 at 9:27 am #1202860760
I thought Burstyn was deserving for Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore and that the film was entertaining enough.April 21, 2019 at 8:23 am #1202860665
Not really on topic but if Emma Stone had been in lead and Colman and Weisz in supporting what do you think would have happened? (I mean it is pretty clear Close and Colman would have won but do you think Stone would have been nominated?) I think she’d be struggling for that fifth spot but probably would have got in.
Do you think that if Portman hadn’t been considered the de facto favorite in the beginning of the 2016 Oscar season that Paramount would have campaigned Davis in lead and she could have won Best Actress instead of Best Supporting Actress for Fences? I think it’s possible.April 21, 2019 at 8:20 am #1202860659
All of the BR and GB wins will continue to be the worst in all of Oscar history. When you had Cooper and TF right there people and then you just…
Next is the Burstyn loss over Roberts. An Oscar for Roberts was eventually going to happen but over Burstyn in Requiem? It’s a legitimate crime.
Sandra Bullock. Ma’am, your win over Gabourney was tragic.
I haven’t seen Joan Allen but I feel that Roberts was deserving of her win as I find Burstyn to be overly mannered and hammy in Requiem For A Dream.
Even Sandra Bullock feels that all the attention was unusual as her work in film wasn’t really something to fall all over themselves for(although she’s definitely a talented performer that deserved recognition) and she even said so on Oprah the day after she won the Oscar I believe.April 21, 2019 at 8:15 am #1202860655
I haven’t seen too many of these winners but I have to agree with Thatcher on Pesci- I didn’t think he did that much in Goodfellas to be honest and I felt the film was overrated although it really isn’t my cup of tea in the first place.Cuba Gooding Jr. and Robin Williams were fine I guess.April 21, 2019 at 8:12 am #1202860651
I thought McDormand was pretty good in Three Billboards but I was looking towards Saoirse Ronan winning for Lady Bird, she could really portray an American.
I never understood the hate towards Black Panther but that’s people for you.
The Artist winning Best Picture was an upset for me. Good movie but not Best Picture.
Emma Stone winning Best Actress. I didn’t think there was nothing special about her performance. I was hoping for Isabelle Huppert for Elle or maybe Natalie Portman for Jackie which I thought she did an amazing job.
I feel like people hate on McDormand’s win because she was a previous winner who steamrolled over competition that had never won before(besides Streep obviously) and who all could have won under different circumstances(besides Streep again).
I thought Stone was good in La La Land although I haven’t seen Isabelle Hupert’s performance and have not completed Jackie. From what I saw I thought Portman was good but mimicry only goes so far with me as one is so inherently aware that the person is acting. Do you think that if Portman hadn’t been considered the de facto favorite in the beginning of the Oscar season Paramount would have campaigned Davis in lead and she could have won Best Actress instead of Best Supporting Actress for Fences? I think it’s possible.April 21, 2019 at 8:06 am #1202860641
Hugo winning Best Visual Effect over Harry Potter and the Deahtly Hallows – Part 2 is a tragedy.
Mahershala Ali winning a second Oscar in 3 years. He just doesn’t deserve it for Moonlight. He was sooooooo boring and average in this film.
Anything Black Panther won.
The King’s Speech winning Best Original Screenplay over Inception… I’m still mad at it.
Melissa Leo winning Best Supporting Actress for The Fighter over Amy Adams is trash. Amy was x1000 better than her.
It’s only been two years since Ali won for Moonlight lol. I haven’t seen Black Panther or Hugo and don’t really want to although I had a dream that Best Costume Design was being recounted as it seemed as if people believed that The Favourite actually won.April 21, 2019 at 7:47 am #1202860632
I still don’t get the hate for McDormand’s performance in Three Billboards- to me it’s an amazing piece of work that deservingly won an Oscar although I thought Hawkins was extremely deserving and even Ronan(whose film I hated) was quite good. I have not seen Robbie yet but will very soon.April 21, 2019 at 2:43 am #1202860442
Glenn losing for The Wife was an act of violence. Those 80s loses can be chopped up to being taken for granted. But everyone voted like clockwork for every category but the one that mattered?
But they didn’t vote like clockwork for every category or Roma would have won Best Picture and The Favourite would have won Best Original Screenplay since Green Book was perceived as too controversial to win but the Academy made up it’s own mind in those two categories and in Best Actress. It is frustrating and cruel though that Glenn keeps getting overlooked.April 21, 2019 at 2:34 am #1202860428
Colman was the lead in The Favourite as she is the center of the film and the thing that drives the actions of the other characters. A film with three central characters is a difficult task for any major studio to campaign for in the acting categories and I think that Fox Searchlight called it correctly.
Films with two leads though need to be campaigned correctly: August Osage County should have had Streep and Roberts both be campaigned in lead. Carol should have had both Mara and Blanchett in lead. Notes On A Scandal’s supporting designation for Blanchett is somewhat fraudulent but Dench’s is the driving force and center of the film for the most part so I don’t mind Blanchett being in supporting as much as some might.The Help was a three lead film but with Stone never even being in consideration I would say that Davis has the more impactful/important narrative in The Help so I think her being in lead and Spencer being in supporting is fine. It would be a great thing if we could see double nominees in the leading categories again though.April 21, 2019 at 1:12 am #1202860411
She would have definitely gotten in as the lineup would have been Aparicio, Close, Gaga, McCarthy, and Stone.Despite Stone being a clear lead in The Favourite I don’t mind how the nominations worked out although Weisz or Stone should have beaten King.