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October 8, 2021 at 10:21 pm #1204510186
Tom all the way, with Greg sprinkles.September 6, 2021 at 8:44 pm #1204441758
Gotta love Omar.June 23, 2021 at 8:15 pm #1204315467
This is actually why the show is actually quite strong awards wise. BAFTA juries almost never revisits a show after it has swept (apart from Happy Valley) so the fact that Comer is one of the only actresses in BAFTA history to get nominated multiple times for the same role speaks to the amount of support her and the show (which still received four other nominations for season 2) have not only in the membership stages of BAFTA voting but also in the jury stages.
So the show is strong because they retained one nominee, that is very friendly when it comes to Bafta’s voting system, and every weakness can be explained by multiple submissions and staked fields?
I don’t remember how many episodes KE submitted, but I’m pretty sure Ozark and BCS did it in writing and they still got in, with multiple nominations. If KE retained it’s strengh from season 2, they should get in a field of eight, even with multiple submissions.
I agree they were 4 or 5 in 2020, but that’s not enought to overcome a votesplit. For Oh to have a shot at a win, they need to be, at least, win competitive in drama series and completely change the course of the caracter, at least, giving Eve the same attention as Villanelle, both high unlikely, IMO.June 23, 2021 at 4:35 pm #1204315285
Looks like the bias has jumped out. What evidence is there that Killing Eve is “falling” so much when it comes to awards when it missed all but two of its 2019 nominations last year lol?
Emmys: missed writing after gettin in for seasons 1 and 2 and directing after gettin nominated for season 2.
Bafta: only retained Comer for seasons 2 and 3 after getting seven nominations and three wins for season 1.
GG: missed series after getting nominations for seasons 1 and 2.
CC: zero nominations for season 3, after getting five for season 1 and two for season 2.
SAG: zero nominations for season 3, after getting one for seasons 1 and 2.June 23, 2021 at 10:08 am #1204314594
BAFTA TV uses a different voting system to the Emmys (and have a disproportionate bias against performers who aren’t British) and the Golden Globes are useless in trying to decipher who is ahead in lead categories at the Emmys (i.e. they nominated Reese Witherspoon over Zendaya, awarded Brian Cox whilst snubbing Jeremy Strong, awarded Richard Madden over Billy Porter).
Had Comer gotten in at the Critics Choice or SAG this season then I’d agree with you that she’s easily ahead of Oh but she didn’t. With Oh likely having the stronger narrative next time round and being “the under awarded one” of this duo I don’t think it’s implausible for her to be ahead.
Just because a show has two performances competing in one category it doesn’t mean they are 100% going to vote-split. Regardless of whether Oh wins or not, I feel like we’ve been through this on these threads for the past few years where people have assumed that two buzzy performances will split on the virtue of them being nominated in the same field yet that hasn’t stopped the likes of Aduba, Comer, Strong, Jones or Abdul-Mateen from winning.
So Comer needs to get in at SAG or CC to be ahead of someone whose last nomination outside of the Emmys was for season 1?
Since then, Comer got in everywhere for season 2, including TCA and SAG, and even manage to be the sole nominee at GG and Bafta for season 3.
Comer will get to season 4 as the face of the show, at least when it comes to awards, probably with oscar buzz, while Oh’s last nomination outside of the Emmys will be in 2019 and the only thing going on for her will be the narrative that wasn’t enought when all she had to overcome was Comer on her first nomination outside of Bafta.
Also, Killing Eve is falling when it comes to awards, so I don’t see a scenerio in which they have Succession or Watchmen strenght, and Oh’s 0-15 record doesn’t put her on Aduba’s level when it comes to Emmy love.
If Jodie is weak cause she didn’t got in at SAG or CC for a weak season, Oh is dead in the water.June 23, 2021 at 12:54 am #1204313897
I’d argue the idea that Comer is definitely ahead is baseless. That definitely was the case for season 2 but now that Comer has already won there seems to be much less of a drive to award her. Sure she got in at BAFTA again but her performance is very friendly under BAFTA’s voting system. We just saw Samira Wiley get in over Ann Dowd and Yvonne Strahovski so Oh could very easily be ahead of Comer.
If there is something baseless is this notion that people are done with Comer and now are going to vote for Oh. Jodie keeps getting in everywhere (Emmy, Bafta, GG), while Sandra is an afterthought, only managing to get in at the Emmys this days, probably due to the unlimited ballot. There is no way she is getting more votes than Comer, let alone overcome a vote split on a stacked field.April 25, 2021 at 7:49 pm #1204225466
Apparently, lead actor is gonna be the last one, so Boseman is 100% winning, if there was any doubtApril 24, 2021 at 3:25 am #1204218723
Mizumono – Hannibal
This Is Not for Tears – Succession
Hitting the Fan – The Good Wife
Loplop – Fargo
START – The Americans
Decoy – Justified
Ronny/Lily – BarryMarch 12, 2021 at 4:28 pm #1204114323
Bledel and Wiley will probably be nominated, but there is doubt whether they will be guests or supporting, since they being alternating through the first three seasons.
Since Bledel was guest for seasons 3, I guess people are assuming she will be there again, but she was supporting for season 2, after winning in guest for season 1, and Wiley won at guest for season 2, so, if they change positions again, stashing her at 100/1 seems like a great bet.January 28, 2021 at 10:55 am #1204006886
Gotta say I hate this theorys like they are not going with Colman over Close for a second time or give Burstyn a second before giving Close her first.
By that logic, why would they give one to Seyfried or Bakalova in a Borat movie before Close gets her first or go with the other gramma that nobody knew five months ago?
Guess nobody is winning.November 18, 2020 at 2:15 pm #1203846192
This is my fear going forward with season 5 tbh. I do understand that Diana and Charles are a huge draw, and as I’ve said before I think Corin and O’Connor were amazing. However, for me personally, The Crown is at it’s most interesting when it’s a political and social commentary, alongside the family drama. I do understand the handful of reviewers that said the drama faltered at times with the Charles and Diana story (and this is not a reflection on their skills as actors). I think this is the most challenging season they’ve had in terms of balancing this because many of us lived through this period of time, and while I do think the show was ultimately successful, there is a very fine line between scenes feeling dramatic and feeling soapy. I’m not relishing the thought of season 5 being 90% Charles and Di going at each other, even if that is what happened.
It was a very strong season, but the lack of political events was a bit of a let down.
On the last episode, when the queen congratulates Thatcher for all she achieved, all the changes she implemented, I had no idea what she was talking about. I mean, we literaly had more scenes of Diana throwing up than the Prime Minister leading the country.October 29, 2020 at 7:57 am #1203809193
Colman fans need to relax and shed their delusion. They think that she deserves every award in the world.
Nobody said she deserves, just that discarding the possibilite of her winning because Close will, regardless of how HE is received and no one is gonna snub her again for Colman only works at the Oscar, because Close is not overdue anywhere else. I dont Know how that turned into Colman deserves anything.October 28, 2020 at 8:52 pm #1203808839
This same logic “HFPA don’t owe you anything” should apply to Colman too since she’s already gone 3 for 3! If anything, Amanda or some newbie should benefit from this the most.
It does, but nobody is saying Colman is going to win the Globe regardless of how good The Father is because she is overdue for an Oscar.October 28, 2020 at 4:09 pm #1203808487
They don’t owe Close anything.
Got to agree with this one. I understand the whole Close is imune at the Oscar even if the HE bombs, which considering that trailer seems very likely, but it doesn’t aply anywhere else, since she has 3 Globes and
Close may very well win the Oscar for a terrible movie because of the narrative, but this belief that she will win the precursors and become undeniable doesn’t work if HE bombs.