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September 21, 2019 at 10:59 am #1203090786
According to the rules, plurality voting replaced preferential voting in 2016, and the option to have score-based voting (i.e. each voter gives a score to each nominee, and the highest average wins) was removed in 2018. The only options now are either plurality, or the system used for areas (each voter gives a separate yes/no vote for each nominee, and the one with the most “yes” votes wins).September 21, 2019 at 10:50 am #1203090771
Wait, I’ve never seen the Emmys on FOX. But this will affect the pre-show, not the actual show, right?
No; I am talking about not repeating the actual ceremony.
Los Angeles’s Fox affiliate KTTV appears to be the only (major) Pacific time zone station that will air a repeat of the ceremony at 8:00 Pacific. The latest TV listings show that Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, San Francisco, San Diego, and Las Vegas will not.September 19, 2019 at 10:10 am #1203086751
The Vegas Show acts, according to the show’s Paris Las Vegas website, are:
Detroit Youth Choir
and one “wild card” this year: Tyler Butler-Figueroa
(getting in ahead of Voices of Service for whatever reason – probably, “We already have two singing acts”)
There are six performances:
Thursday night, Friday night, Saturday matinee & night, Sunday matinee & night
Evening shows are at 7:30; matinees are at 2:00September 18, 2019 at 2:55 pm #1203085275
Another reason the Emmys shouldn’t be on FOX…
More like, another reason they shouldn’t be on Sunday night. NBC has no problem airing them on Mondays.
EDIT: Apparently, unless you can get the Los Angeles Fox station, if you live in the Pacific time zone, there will not be the usual repeat of the ceremony at 8:00 Pacific. As of Thursday morning, Seattle, Portland, Sacramento, San Francisco, and San Diego all have other shows listed in their TV listings; Las Vegas is TBA.
My best guess is, there have been one too many instances of people tuning in at 8, catching the end of the live ceremony, and saying to themselves, “Why bother watching the rest?” (My second-best guess is, the stations depend too much on their 10 PM news being an hour earlier than everybody else’s 11 PM news – this is a big thing out west, where a lot of people have to get to work in time for the 6:30 AM opening of the stock market.)September 18, 2019 at 11:23 am #1203084746
To see if your area will have an NFL game on Fox on late Sunday afternoon that will overlap the Emmy pre-show, click here and scroll down to the “Fox Single” map; the areas in blue/purple and light blue will be affected. Keep in mind that the networks do make changes up to pretty much the last minute. Also, some of the affected cities’ Fox stations may decide to air the start of the pre-show on one of their subchannels; a lot of Fox affiliates also have Buzzr, for example.
As I suspected, the areas that are affected are mainly the ones with teams in the Fox late Sunday afternoon games (New York, Tampa, Charlotte, Phoenix) and the ones with teams in the CBS 1:00 games (Atlanta, Baltimore, Boston, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Kansas City, Indianapolis, New York). Currently (Wednesday afternoon), Columbus is affected as well; presumably, a lot of Bengals fans live there, so Fox would not want to compete against that game.September 16, 2019 at 7:16 pm #1203081290
Not both pairs in the same year – 2019 was the first time since the current version of Guest Acting categories was created in 1989 (there were similar categories in the mid/late 1970s and mid 1980s, but the 1970s categories combined drama and comedy, and the 1980s ones combined men and women).
Here are the “pairs” I could find
1990 – Murphy Brown (Jay Thomas, Colleen Dewhurst)
1995 – Mad About You (Carl Reiner, Cyndi Lauper)
1997 – Mad About You (Mel Brooks, Carol Burnett)
2001 – Frasier (Derek Jacobi, Jean Smart)
2009 – SNL (Justin Timberlake, Tina Fey)
2017 – SNL (Dave Chappelle, Melissa McCarthy)
2019 – The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel (Luke Kirby, Jane Lynch)
1989 – Midnight Caller (Joe Spano, Kay Lenz)
2000 – The Practice (James Whitmore, Beah Richards)
2004 – The Practice (William Shatner, Sharon Stone)
2019 – The Handmaid’s Tale (Bradley Whitford, Cherry Jones)September 15, 2019 at 10:33 am #1203076702
So now there are 3 days of ceremonies at the Emmys?
Yes. Having all of the Creative Arts categories on the same night resulted in, what, a five-hour ceremony? And has it been that many years since they were given out earlier in the day of the main ceremony?
Any word on the order of categories? I need to set up an alarm at 3AM and I want to see if I can skip a few categories… I’m here for Djawadi basically
I asked this yesterday, and the order was not made available until something like 20 minutes before the ceremony started.
Also, aren’t the four Guest Acting awards spread out throughout the ceremony? Usually, they save one for the end.
OOPS – you’re interested in Ramin Djawadi, the composer, aren’t you?September 15, 2019 at 9:03 am #1203076517
Well lighting plus production design for the same SNL episode hosted by Mulaney probably means Mulaney is winning as guest. But THR fuck up says Kirby is winning it. Hmmmm.
There’s a separate thread about the Hollywood Reporter “leak.” It turns out that all of the Sunday night “winners” just happen to be the first names listed in the nomination list for each category. The only winner HR knows (and, ironically enough, is the one not listed) is Crazy Ex-Girlfriend for Scripted Series Choreography – because it has already been announced by the Academy.September 15, 2019 at 8:55 am #1203076497
They are all the first listed alphabetically in their category by show title.
Fiona Shaw alphabetically comes after Kristen Scott Thomas in Fleabag. Her surname is Scott Thomas, not Thomas.
They’re the first entries in the official nomination List. The Comedy Guest Actress list also has Emma Thompson before Sandra Oh for their SNL hosting appearances, and Ron Cephas comes before Michael Angarano for This is Us in the Comedy Guest Actor list, so multiple nominations for a show in a category don’t seem to be in any order.September 15, 2019 at 8:47 am #1203076465
I’m not convinced. Like I commented in the Creative Arts reactions, I still think there’s resistance to Netflix as evidenced by their shows only being nominated this year.
Then explain how Love, Death and Robots beat, for example, Robot Chicken in Short Form Animation.
Question: how many of the voters actually watch all of the episodes of all of the nominated series? If the only time they watch Bojack Horseman is the screener of the episode in question, and the episode is (from what I hear) a 20-minute Bojack monologue at a funeral, then what do you expect? Okay, I’m a little surprised that Bob’s Burgers didn’t win over The Simpsons; the voters tend to like “Tina episodes” like the one that was entered.
Another possibility as to why The Simpsons won; as a “lifetime achievement award” for the show’s 30 seasons. The last time the show won Animated Program was in 2008. (BTW, that’s 19 Emmys on the shelf now for James L. Brooks; he now has more for The Simpsons than for his other shows (The Tracey Ullman Show, Taxi, The Mary Tyler Moore Show) put together.)September 14, 2019 at 7:08 pm #1203075334
I agree, I think it’s ridiculous tbh.
Can someone explain to me how Exceptional Merit in Documentary Filmmaking, and Documentary or Nonfiction Special are different categories? Oscar nominated docs get nominated in both categories
This is from the Emmy Rules description of the Exceptional Merit in Documentary Filmmaking category:
“This award is not meant to duplicate the recognition given documentary/nonfiction programming in the other categories and areas of the competition; rather, its purpose is to both honor and encourage exceptional achievement in one or more of the traditional
components of the filmmakers’ art:
1. Profound social impact
2. Significant innovation of form
3. Remarkable mastery of filmmaking technique
Judging criteria will include: filmmaker’s expressed vision, compelling power of storytelling, artistry or innovation of craft, and the capacity to inform, transport, impact, enlighten, and create a moving and indelible work that elevates the art of documentary filmmaking.”September 14, 2019 at 7:00 pm #1203075312
That’s a sweep – seven nominations, seven Emmys (it is not nominated in any categories tomorrow night or in the main ceremony)September 14, 2019 at 6:29 pm #1203075238
Zach, didn’t “Wolves in the Walls: It’s All Over” also win for Innovation in Interactive Programming?