Somewhat younger movie lover....I have always loved watching movies and talking about them with anybody who would listen or show the slightest inkling that they may love them too. I am also a huge lover and supporter of live Theatre and think more people in today's society should go see more plays/musicals. I do love being able to talk to and associate with many other arts lovers on this site and am always open for any discussion.
Dec 17, 2011
Aug 08, 2020
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August 7, 2020 at 8:29 pm #1203633661
Honestly, most of the ensemble of PARASITE not getting attention was absolutely bonkers…especially once the passion we saw the film had.
Song Kang-ho did have critics award attention but Cho Yeo-Jeong, Park So-dam, and Lee Jung-eun in particular not getting any attention was shameful.
I also love the Ashton Sanders mentions for MOONLIGHT. He was the one that should’ve won that Oscar and not Mahershala Ali.
This year alone, we had Adele Haenel and Alfre Woodard getting shut out of the mix (though PORTRAIT OF A LADY ON FIRE had even more hurdles to overcome than CLEMENCY did).
“The art of making art is putting it together...”July 30, 2020 at 8:23 am #1203614978
He was robbed of a nomination for CAPTAIN PHILLIPS when he should’ve been a strong contender to win. It was his best work in years.
I will say I did also quite like what he brought to the table while playing Mister Rogers. It wasn’t really a performance in which he looked or sounded like him but I felt he really captured the energy and essence of him.
“The art of making art is putting it together...”July 29, 2020 at 4:16 pm #1203613645
#7-Barking Dogs Never Bite
Even he himself has been hard on this one, but I would say it’s an adequate film at the very least. It does stick out like something of a sore thumb compared to his other films though.
This one is definitely a little on the nose with its themes, not to mention I found it a little hard to get through for the first quarter of the film. It did eventually take off for me and I enjoyed it but in the grand scheme, I didn’t really finish the film feeling that strongly about it one way or the other.
I thought it was an entertaining film but it also was lacking something. I think it could use another rewatch.
I think this film is interesting in how frequently Bong kept us on our toes…we never really knew what to expect and if we did suspect something, it might not actually go that way. It will be interesting to see him go back into more of a horror genre as he said he planned to do with his next Korean language film.
Here is where we get into his masterpiece territory. I very much loved Mother to the point where I felt it should’ve been nominated for Best Picture and Kim Hye-ja would’ve been a force in the Actress race. It’s such a haunting film and perhaps the film that felt the most mature of his…not sure why but it just feels more dramatic than some of his others.
#2-Memories of Murder
This was fantastic. It really does feel like the precursor to Fincher’s ZODIAC. What a truly magnificent crime film and even though the crime in question got solved last fall, it still doesn’t lose any power.
All I’m really going to say about PARASITE is that it may be my favorite film of not just this past decade but maybe even since 2000. It just amazed me that a film with such immense praise actually still blew me away. It lived up to its hype and then some for me, and I think it’s a shame that the actors weren’t recognized for their stellar work beyond the SAG win and some critics prizes.
“The art of making art is putting it together...”July 26, 2020 at 1:12 pm #1203604079
Then again, 1965 didn’t really give us much to choose from as most of the nominees were barely in their movies and outshined by other cast members. The only exception was Frank Finlay, who was the best part of a bad movie. If Hardy Kruger, Harry Andrews and Oskar Werner had been nominated, this race would have been different. Agree with Chakiris though, that win was just weird, especially when you consider the competition.
I almost came back to edit in that Balsam benefitted from weaker competition. It certainly doesn’t feel like anyone else was royally robbed from that list. The 3 actors you named certainly all seemed like better nominees.
“The art of making art is putting it together...”July 26, 2020 at 11:17 am #1203603886
Honestly, this isn’t really that stellar of a lineup. I know who my bottom two choices are but the rest of them are sort of just in a somewhat of an order.
1. Melvyn Douglas, HUD
2. Jack Albertson, THE SUBJECT WAS ROSES
3. Gig Young, THEY SHOOT HORSES DON’T THEY?
4. Walter Matthau, THE FORTUNE COOKIE
5. Ed Begley, SWEET BIRD OF YOUTH
6. Peter Ustinov, SPARTACUS
7. George Kennedy, COOL HAND LUKE
8. Peter Ustinov, TOPKAPI
9. Martin Balsam, A THOUSAND CLOWNS
10. George Chakiris, WEST SIDE STORY
The bottom two belong on a list of the most baffling Acting wins in Oscar history. I get that Chakiris was more of a coattail win, but still…just no.
“The art of making art is putting it together...”July 26, 2020 at 8:07 am #1203603562
In terms of his films listed here, I voted pretty confidently for THE IRISHMAN.
Though his greatest would’ve been his excellent take on Roy Cohn in ANGELS IN AMERICA.
“The art of making art is putting it together...”July 24, 2020 at 7:07 am #1203599556
Only five. Embarrassing
I agree on both the order of the list and the sad fact that there are only 5 nominees (and one winner) among them.
All 5 were extremely deserving so the fact that Gerwig is last has no bearing on the quality of her work on LADYBIRD for me.
And just as a random side note, this past year should’ve warranted two slots for a female director in my book: Lulu Wang and Celine Sciamma.
“The art of making art is putting it together...”July 19, 2020 at 4:14 am #1203591773
Definitely Blanchett, who is my favorite actress working today.
I do feel Winslet is also great, but she doesn’t always quite get there.
“The art of making art is putting it together...”July 12, 2020 at 8:58 am #1203582461
Yes, I still have to agree that the four actors that portray the Kim family are not all Leads.
Only Choi Woo-shik has the screentime/arc that would make me justify putting him in Lead.
Then I would MAYBE consider Song Kang ho and Cho Yeo Jeong as borderline leads but both belong and should’ve won in Supporting.
Park So-dam made a strong impression, to be sure, and she is the one who seems to assimilate into the Parks’ lifestyle the most, but she is definitely Supporting.
I can’t even justify the Kim mother, Jang Hye-jin, as being a Lead.
Now, to counter this, I do think a performance such as Anthony Hopkins in THE SILENCE OF THE LAMBS does throw a wrench into this as he certainly had the screentime to be Supporting. However I feel like that is one rare example where people seem to let the one slide….probably because he was far and away the best in that category.
“The art of making art is putting it together...”July 11, 2020 at 7:47 pm #1203582005
I feel like I’ve been guilty of accusing someone of being “overdue” but in the end, it really doesn’t matter. If someone isn’t the best in the category, then they shouldn’t win…even if it’s their 4th, 5th, 6th, etc nomination.
Someone like Laura Dern winning this year is more than enough proof that goodwill from many areas is all you need to gain a narrative. It becomes even more ridiculous when you think about the fact that any of the actresses from PARASITE weren’t even nominated.
Glenn Close should’ve won an Oscar years ago but strictly based on her performance in THE WIFE, which I liked, she deservingly lost to Colman.
“The art of making art is putting it together...”July 11, 2020 at 7:54 am #1203581111
It really does feel like a “stars aligning” scenario.
In the case of Peter O’Toole, wasn’t he considered the frontrunner for THE LION IN WINTER before losing to Robertson’s erratic performance in CHARLY? I feel like he was basically robbed whereas Robertson had other things in his corner, like having Dina Merrill as a wife.
I do think you could make a case that Martin Landau was overdue as his two previous losses were for masterful performances but even then, I still feel like he won for his best work in ED WOOD. It was the best combo. You could argue that same combo helped Maureen Stapleton and Geraldine Page.
In the end, it really is true that the Oscars don’t fully matter in the grand scheme. Certain films and performances will stand the test of time and be remembered fondly…and I think such actors as O’Toole, Richard Burton, Deborah Kerr, and Thelma Ritter have a much more respected legacy than many actual winners.
They don’t have an Oscar but lesser actors/performances do.
“The art of making art is putting it together...”July 8, 2020 at 7:43 am #1203573594
I do have to ask: was Tomei even considered a possibility as a nominee?
It just seems so far out of left field….and then she won the damn thing.
I feel like had the SAG Awards existed that year, she might have been the victor there.
“The art of making art is putting it together...”July 6, 2020 at 5:01 pm #1203571132
She is such a fantastic actress. I agree that she was snubbed of nominations for PASSION FISH, CROOKLYN, and CLEMENCY.
@GALAXY98: LOVE your list!! Though I would’ve nominated Cho in Supporting and given her the win there.
My list is as follows:
Awkwafina, THE FAREWELL
Adele Haenel, PORTRAIT OF A LADY ON FIRE
Lupita Nyong’o, US
Florence Pugh, MIDSOMMAR
Alfre Woodard, CLEMENCY
Honestly I’m not sure who I’d give it to. Probably either Woodard or Nyong’o.
“The art of making art is putting it together...”July 6, 2020 at 4:56 pm #1203571123
I guess you could say that I don’t hate his performance but I do think I’d rank him dead last in that category.
Denzel Washington was robbed that year and I also felt Stephen Rea was wonderful as well.
Strictly basing it on the performance, Pacino did a great job in not having any kind of vibrancy around the eyes. The lack of movement was quite impressive.
However, he felt very bombastic and over the top and it didn’t help the film was pretty much schmaltz.
Pacino should’ve won for an Oscar for SERPICO and perhaps one for either GODFATHER PART II or DOG DAY AFTERNOON. I think he would’ve even gotten my vote for THE IRISHMAN since Song and Dafoe were snubbed.
“The art of making art is putting it together...”June 30, 2020 at 2:32 pm #1203559212
He is definitely a Lead. I would definitely concede that Mortensen was more of a Lead but that shouldn’t mean Ali deserved to be bumped to Supporting.
It’s upsetting to think how this probably cost Grant an Oscar for a performance that truly was Supporting and was actually, in my opinion, better.
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