[Zooey the DreamerParticipant Joined: Jan 12th, 2012 Topics: 6 Posts: 1157 View Predictions]

#1202977712

Veep is not winning. It missed directing and it has a total of 9 (NINE!) nods.

Maisel missed writing BUT it has 20 nominations.

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#1202977608

These nominations are AWFUL.
GAME OF THRONES got everything for a horrific season.

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-5 Glenn Close
-5 Bette Midler
+5 Christine Ebersole – Grey Gardens
+5 Chita (have not seen this; way before my time but I love Chita)

Lea Salonga, Miss Saigon (80)

Glenn Close, Sunset Boulevard (76)

Bette Midler, Hello, Dolly! (55)

Cynthia Erivo, The Color Purple (51)

Bebe Neuwirth, Chicago (37)

Chita Rivera, Kiss of the Spider Woman (34)

Audra McDonald, Porgy and Bess (33)

Christine Ebersole, Grey Gardens (30)

Natasha Richardson, Cabaret (25)
Heather Headley, Aida (25)
Christine Ebersole, 42nd Street (25)
Sutton Foster, Thoroughly Modern Mille (25)
LaChanze, The Color Purple (25)

Patti LuPone, Gypsy (24)
Donna Murphy, Passion (24)

Sutton Foster, Anything Goes (23)

Kelli O’Hara, The King and I (22)
Donna Murphy, The King and I (22)
Tyne Daly, Gypsy (22)

Bernadette Peters, Annie Get Your Gun (21)

Faith Prince, Guys and Dolls (20)
Idina Menzel, Wicked (20)

Jessie Mueller, Beautiful: The Carole King Musical (13)

Marissa Jaret Winokur, Hairspray (10)

Alice Ripley, Next To Normal (8)

Eliminated:
30) Catherine Zeta-Jones, A Little Night Music
29) Stephanie J. Block, The Cher Show
28) Katrina Lenk, The Band’s Visit
27) Patina Miller, Pippin
26) Victoria Clark, The Light In the Piazza

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+4 Meryl Streep
-4 Maggie Smith

Maggie Smith, The Prime of Miss Jean Brodie (769)

Meryl Streep, Sophie’s Choice (158)

Olivia Colman, The Favourite (27)

Eliminated:
50. Helen Hunt, As Good as It Gets
49. Gwyneth Paltrow, Shakespeare in Love
48. Sandra Bullock, The Blind Side
47. Jessica Tandy, Driving Miss Daisy
46. Meryl Streep, The Iron Lady
45. Reese Witherspoon, Walk the Line
44. Cher, Moonstruck
43. Brie Larson, Room
42. Emma Stone, La La Land
41. Glenda Jackson, Women in Love
40. Julianne Moore, Still Alice
39. Halle Berry, Monster’s Ball
38. Hilary Swank, Million Dollar Baby
37. Julia Roberts, Erin Brockovich
36. Glenda Jackson, A Touch of Class
35. Marlee Matlin, Children of a Lesser God
34. Geraldine Page, The Trip to Bountiful
33. Sally Field, Places in the Heart
32. Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook
31. Nicole Kidman, The Hours
30. Kate Winslet, The Reader
29. Katharine Hepburn, On Golden Pond
28. Jodie Foster, The Accused
27. Shirley MacLaine, Terms of Endearment
26. Jane Fonda, Coming Home
25. Hilary Swank, Boys Don’t Cry
24. Sally Field, Norma Rae
23. Susan Sarandon, Dead Man Walking
22. Louise Fletcher, One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest
21. Jessica Lange, Blue Sky
20. Frances McDormand, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
19. Natalie Portman, Black Swan
18. Charlize Theron, Monster
17. Cate Blanchett, Blue Jasmine
16. Helen Mirren, The Queen
15. Sissy Spacek, Coal Miner’s Daughter
14. Diane Keaton, Annie Hall
13. Frances McDormand, Fargo
12. Ellen Burstyn, Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore
11. Liza Minelli, Cabaret
10. Marion Cotillard, La Vie En Rose
9. Faye Dunaway, Network
8. Jodie Foster, The Silence of The Lambs
7. Jane Fonda, Klute
6. Holly Hunter, The Piano
5. Kathy Bates, Misery
4. Emma Thompson, Howards End

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This is a rather dumb question but do you think I’d be able to understand what’s going on if I haven’t finished season 2? For some weird reason, I never made it past episode 2 of season 2. But I really wanna see season 3.

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Heptapod wrote:

I know I’ve said this before, but it’s honestly hilarious how similar this is to last year’s drama situation. A series from an up-and-coming streaming service sweeps in the absence of an HBO juggernaut? Other than guest actress, Maisel won the exact same awards Handmaid’s did in 2017. If last year is any indication, voters like to spread the wealth after having a show sweep like that. I think that Maisel will fare better than Handmaid’s did last year just due to the fact that its second season was much more highly regarded (I’d say that its Directing and Supporting Actor trophies are fairly safe), but don’t expect to see any repeat wins outside of Directing. As much as Hader is deserving of a second trophy, they seem more likely to give it to someone they ignored in the past. Danson and Gilpin are the pair that I see most benefiting from this. Louis-Dreyfus is still safe though, despite being the ultimate repeat lmao.

Also, I’m trying to ignore what’s high up in the prediction center for comedy because Gold Derby is so often wrong when it comes to comedy and limited categories. Remember last year when Will & Grace was supposed to be this juggernaut contender? It’s so easy to get swept up by the discourse in the forums and be convinced by the opinions of just a few people who have no connection to the industry. I’m now just doing my best to think outside the box and foresee any of the surprises that could pop up.

THT Season 2 was a mess and didn’t win any awards other than the Emmys. Maisel’s second season is even more beloved than the first one (and I can think of its three SAG wins and one of the rare acting repeats at the Globes). So this is a completely different situation. I can see Maisel sweep.

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#1202929697

I’m making some crazy predictions but I prefer going out on a limb than going with all the safe choices.

Best Musical — Hadestown
Best Play — The Ferryman
Best Musical Revival — Oklahoma!
Best Revival of a Play — The Boys in the Band
Best Actress in a Musical — Beth Leavel in The Prom (yeah, I know…)
Best Actor in a Musical — Santino Fontana in Tootsie
Best Actress in a Play — Elaine May in The Waverly Gallery
Best Actor in a Play — Bryan Cranston in Network (though Jeff Daniels is my gut feeling)
Best Featured Actress in a Musical — Ali Stoker in Oklahoma!
Best Featured Actor in a Musical — Jeremy Pope in Ain’t Too Proud
Best Featured Actress in a Play — Celia Keenan-Bolger in To Kill A Mockingbird
Best Featured Actor in a Play — Benjamin Walker in All My Sons
Best Direction of a Musical — Rachel Chakvin for Hadestown
Best Direction of a Play — Sam Mendes for The Ferryman
Best Musical Score — Hadestown
Best Book of a Musical — Tootsie
Best Orchestrations — Hadestown
Best Choreography — Kiss Me, Kate
Best Scenic Design of a Play — Ink
Best Scenic Design of a Musical — Hadestown
Best Costume Design of a Play — Gary: A Sequel to Titus Andronics (though I have a feeling about Bernhard/Hamlet)
Best Costume Design of a Musical — The Cher Show
Best Lighting Design of a Play — The Ferryman
Best Lighting Design of a Musical — Hadestown
Best Sound Design of a Play — Network
Best Sound Design of a Musical — Hadestown

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#1202926775

+4 Meryl Streep
-4 Olivia Colman

Meryl Streep, The Devil Wears Prada (338)

Olivia Colman, The Favourite (236)

Helen Mirren, The Queen (136)

Eliminated:
38. Jennifer Lawrence, Joy
37. Meryl Streep, Julie & Julia
36. Sandra Bullock, The Blind Side
35. Reese Witherspoon, Walk the Line
34. Renee Zellweger, Nurse Betty
33. Meryl Streep, The Iron Lady
32. Emma Stone, La La Land
31. Amy Adams, Big Eyes
30. Hilary Swank, Million Dollar Baby
29. Julia Roberts, Erin Brockovich
28. Annette Bening, The Kids Are All Right
27. Annette Bening, Being Julia
26. Glenn Close, The Wife
25. Jessica Chastain, Zero Dark Thirty
24. Diane Keaton, Something’s Gotta Give
23. Michelle Williams, My Week With Marilyn
22. Sally Hawkins, Happy-Go-Lucky
21. Sissy Spacek, In the Bedroom
20. Natalie Portman, Black Swan
19. Brie Larson, Room
18. Charlize Theron, Monster
17. Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook
16. Nicole Kidman, The Hours
15. Renee Zellweger, Chicago
14. Nicole Kidman, Moulin Rouge!
13. Felicity Huffman, Transamerica
12. Julianne Moore, Still Alice
11. Kate Winslet, Revolutionary Road
10. Amy Adams, American Hustle
9. Marion Cotillard, La Vie en Rose
8. Cate Blanchett, Blue Jasmine
7. Saoirse Ronan, Lady Bird
6. Frances McDormand, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
5. Julie Christie, Away From Her
4. Isabelle Huppert, Elle

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#1202918693

And now Deadwood has rave reviews, so I can see it winning TV Movie for sure. Isn’t it really weird that in most years, we have a really weak limited series/tv movie nominees and some great drama series nominees. This time around, limited series and TV movie are stacked with great potential nominees and the drama series category is in the worst possible shape, with a bunch of top contenders coming off extremely disappointing seasons.

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#1202912380

+4 Meryl Streep
-4 Helen Mirren

Meryl Streep, The Devil Wears Prada (333)

Olivia Colman, The Favourite (209)

Helen Mirren, The Queen (185)

Eliminated:
38. Jennifer Lawrence, Joy
37. Meryl Streep, Julie & Julia
36. Sandra Bullock, The Blind Side
35. Reese Witherspoon, Walk the Line
34. Renee Zellweger, Nurse Betty
33. Meryl Streep, The Iron Lady
32. Emma Stone, La La Land
31. Amy Adams, Big Eyes
30. Hilary Swank, Million Dollar Baby
29. Julia Roberts, Erin Brockovich
28. Annette Bening, The Kids Are All Right
27. Annette Bening, Being Julia
26. Glenn Close, The Wife
25. Jessica Chastain, Zero Dark Thirty
24. Diane Keaton, Something’s Gotta Give
23. Michelle Williams, My Week With Marilyn
22. Sally Hawkins, Happy-Go-Lucky
21. Sissy Spacek, In the Bedroom
20. Natalie Portman, Black Swan
19. Brie Larson, Room
18. Charlize Theron, Monster
17. Jennifer Lawrence, Silver Linings Playbook
16. Nicole Kidman, The Hours
15. Renee Zellweger, Chicago
14. Nicole Kidman, Moulin Rouge!
13. Felicity Huffman, Transamerica
12. Julianne Moore, Still Alice
11. Kate Winslet, Revolutionary Road
10. Amy Adams, American Hustle
9. Marion Cotillard, La Vie en Rose
8. Cate Blanchett, Blue Jasmine
7. Saoirse Ronan, Lady Bird
6. Frances McDormand, Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
5. Julie Christie, Away From Her
4. Isabelle Huppert, Elle

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#1202904027

PerksofBeingaGriff wrote:

Tyrion is now my least favorite tv character.

That trial was a joke. The man goes on trial for his “crimes”. He starts talking, they tell him to be quiet as he’s a traitor. He then starts talking again, proposed general changes to how the seven kingdoms are ruled. Major changes. And what happens? He even gets to choose the next king. (I won’t even focus on the fact that he already has stated that somebody else is the right choice to be king – five minutes earlier.)

This is like Snowden being on trial, proposing a bunch of changes to the presidency and everybody in Senate being: Right. Yeah, let’s do that.

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#1202904024

I don’t think this Emmy is a sure thing.

Remember last year when The Handmaid’s Tale had a rather dull season (it was nothing compared to the GoT trainwreck though)? We all thought there was no way voters would pass on giving it a second Emmy. It lost.

Yes, GoT is a phenomenon but it had not just a dull season, it had an awful, amateurish season. The writing, which was insultingly stupid, failed everybody. Take a look at Lena Headey. Didn’t this writing fail her? Where is her character’s arc? She got nothing. And this is the case with most actors – they either got nothing to do or they had to justify ridiculous character development that didn’t make sense.

And see, Emmy voters might be fans as well. I bet many are watching GoT regularly and there’s no way they won’t react to what happened. Others will undoubtedly listen to the Zeitgeist. And right now, the show is seen as a huge failure. Passionate fans are rejecting this season. Critics are rejecting this season.

And what doesn’t help GoT is the fact that the cast is being cocky and arrogant. Kit Harrington told everybody to go fuck themselves. He insisted that the cast had done everything for themselves. As if they have not been paid… His statement is ridiculous, as everything in the public space will be judged. This is how things go.

Whatever. Sophie Turner tried acting dumb by explaining that fans are mad because of the ending. As if the whole HBO gang can’t understand that fans are angry because of the lack of justification/motivation/objectives for any of the characters. Not the ending. Any ending would have been accepted, had it been justified. But whatever…

My point was the reaction is too loud to be ignored. And it’s not just the fans, it’s the critics, the press. It might very well lose. One thing is for sure: it’s not winning writing. I believe it won’t get nominated for writing.

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#1202904018

Based on the guild reception, I’d say it’s in. You have to go back to Rome to find a TV drama that won the DGA and then didn’t register with Emmy voters in any major category.

Let’s not forget that Succession also got two WGA nods, the AFI citation and the cast is starry. But above all, this year the Emmys will nominate everything, as they don’t have that many options. Most of their favorites are off the air – a few ended, a few took a hiatus. So I doubt that a show such as Succession will be ignored by the TV Academy.

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#1202904014

methaddiction wrote:

Killing Eve isn’t winning writing especially if Game of Thrones only submits one episode.

Only a month has passed but right now I’m thinking GoT ain’t winning writing, even if it submits a single episode.
1) All the GoT controversy/negativity will have an effect on its Emmy performance. Yes, we’re saying it’s probably winning drama series by default (but that’s what we all thought about The Handmaid’s Tale last year and they had a solid if unremarkable season; GoT’s final season is not mediocre, it’s insultingly awful).
2) Even if the Academy at large ignores the Zeitgeist and votes for the HBO show, I expect writers to pass on that. They don’t even have options. What can they vote for in writing?

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#1202900561

And yes, they were building up Jon’s narrative for seasons, at the beginning of the episode the Imp was convincing him he was the right one to be king, then five minutes later the Imp decided it was a random character who was right for the throne. And why were these elders asking the Imp who was a prisoner and considered a traitor in the first place? Just because. Everything about this finale is so random.